[Burger28]

I posted this on the coupe site, as usual not getting much response! I don't know why I never seem to get many replies on any of my topics but I thought I'd ask on here in the hope of some more advice.

http://forums.hyundaicoupe.info/viewtop ... highlight=

 

[Kalsius]

Seems you got some pretty sound replies... Must say, on my Gen 1 the strut brace, 17" alloys and some Avon ZZ3's and the thing sticks like glue!! I use tyreshopper.co.uk as I have a National Auto Centre down the road and know the guys there. You cant go wrong really with those or blackcircles I've found.

 

[Miller]

i dont have a gen 3 nor have i driven one, however i can offer some useful advice,

1. tyes will obviously effect your grip, what you want is a good All Round tyer one that vents wet and also has grip for roads which wont leave half the tyre on the m1 when its hot,

for this i recomend some falken tyers to be quite honnest

ZIEX ZE-512 - http://www.falkentire.com/Tires/Passeng ... -ZE-512-13

supplier - http://www.falkentyres.co.uk/ze512.asp?cookiecheck=yes&

2. my Gen1 used to be a night mare going over 50 mph going round any corner so bad that i actually span it out and nearly had a serious accident,

i lowered mine by 25 mm using only eibach springs at first and saw a massive improvement

now my only issues are in the wet to be honnest. although i do still step out on the odd occasion if my tyers are not hot.

3. Camber

now this is where im going next to eliminate some of my crappy rear end problems im going to invest in some camber bolts to bring me into 0.75 degree negative camber, this will eliminate all your under steering issues in my opinion but i would not advise doing this unless youve lowered the cars Center of gravity via lowering springs or new shocks.

4. im not sure about this one so please dont do it and then shout at me if im wrong :mrgreen: but if you increase your wheel base then you will have a larger distance for your suspension to adjust there for you in therory should be abel to eliminate yet again even more understeer however this will put strain on your wheel bearings so i wouldnt advise any more than 15mm,

5. Strut braces

dont even bother spending the money for the time being, trust me unless your cambers are set and your veicle is lowered your wasting your money in my opinion all you do is stiffen up the struts and without the correct camber sttings its a waste of time, however with your cambers set then go go go as it theroreticly should make a massive diffence as your wheel should stay inline and be very taught, i still would recomend stiffer spring as i think it would be a waste of money with out!

hope this helps

 

[Owain]

Gotta agree with Miller there.

If you're understeering when it's wet then either:

You're driving too fast for the conditions
You've got crap/unsuitable tyres

Lowering the car 30mm on Eibach springs will give you the biggest gain for the smallest spend. Including fitting, you're looking at around £300. A decent front strut brace will help a little with the handling, don't bother with the rear as you have to rip out the boot linings.

Reality is that you can't drastically improve the handling without spending some serious money, but lowering will help significantly - I'm a miserable bastid but even I was impressed with how much lowering on springs helped. I've done several trackdays and the Nurburgring in my Gen3 v6 since lowering it, and it's done me proud. Especially on R888's

O.

 

[Burger28]

If you're understeering when it's wet then either:

You're driving too fast for the conditions
You've got crap/unsuitable tyres

driving too fast for the conditions? I've owned 4 other cars (all cheaper and lower spec than the coupe) and NEVER had these issues, even at twice the speed!

Yes they are crap tyres. Definately.

I'm getting the tyres and springs done after the MOT, just to be safe. Are eibach springs worth spending an extra £60 on compared to spax?

 

[Owain]

Never had the spax ones to be honest, but I can't see them being much different - it's more the lowering of the car and the shorted travel rather than the quality so yeah - go for those I reckon!

 

[Miller]

i would never ever buy anything other than eibach with regards to running gear uprating

 

[Burger28]

i would never ever buy anything other than eibach with regards to running gear uprating

what else have you tried?

 

[Miller]

nothing else on my coupe,

on other veichles ive used tein, tanabe and sprint

eibach is personal prefference
theres a reason why you pay more for well engineered items

 

[Burger28]

eibach is personal prefference
theres a reason why you pay more for well engineered items

...and sometimes very similar items have huge variances in cost, or the variance in cost isn't worth the difference in performance.

I've never heard anything bad about Spax, though if anyone has evidence that they are bad i'd love to hear it. I've also had Eibach lowering springs before and I REALLY don't think that having some from a different manufacturer would make THAT much of a difference.

 

[Owain]

I'd tend to agree Burger - suspension can range from £100-ish up to £20,000 for a full race set-up.

Realistically, Eibach and Spax are in the same price bracket so they'll be more or less the same thing. Anything that goes wrong will be a manufacturing defect which you could get from either.

 

[Miller]

well ive tried to help you, if you want to rip my posts to pieces go ahead

i suggest you look at the way each spring is engineered and make a decision based on your prefferences

hope it goes well

 

[Owain]

I don't think anyone's "rupping your posts to pieces" Miller, I don't think that by any means. All that's being said is that none of us here have ever actually had any bad experiences with Spax stuff so they're not to be written off.

If someone said that they've owned Spax before, it was a nightmare and don't ever go for it again then that'd be one thing, but as none of us know any better we can only offer advice.

I'm sure everyone's input is appreciated.

Best of luck guys.

 

[berni-mac]

a guy told me in a tyre place that specialized in suspension that spax are poo, but then again he told me my shocks were on the way out and i brought to my local mechanic that does all my work and he said they were fine!! he also said that just doing springs on regular shocks will damage them and end up doing more damage then good? any of his so called "advice" true?? so for hijacked this thread if anyone thinks that

 

[Owain]

I've been running standard shocks on lowered Eibach springs for over a year now and have given the car real abuse on several tracks and a trip to Germany - I have noticed no issues whatsoever with my shocks.

Thing is that spax *are* poo - are so are Eibach, but only compared to the kinda things that specialists are used to working with. A guy I know spent about two grand on his new Exe-TC track suspension and that is certainly *not* poo. However, wave goodbye to a few months wages.

However, poo or not it's still better than the standard setup which is a compromise of handling and comfort but costs us a couple of hundred quid instead of thousands.

Yes, you're probably more likely to snap a Spax spring than a Hyundai one. However, you're also more likely to destroy your car hitting a deer than you are to snap a spring.

O.